{"id":1195,"date":"2019-11-03T13:10:35","date_gmt":"2019-11-03T11:10:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/?p=1195"},"modified":"2019-11-03T13:45:36","modified_gmt":"2019-11-03T11:45:36","slug":"sncf-le-periple-de-la-reservation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/?p=1195","title":{"rendered":"SNCF : le p\u00e9riple de la r\u00e9servation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Vendredi 1er novembre, j&rsquo;ai voulu r\u00e9server la prestation acces plus pour un voyage fin novembre.<br \/>\nLe voyage consiste en :<\/p>\n<p>Mercredi :<br \/>\nGrenoble &gt; Lyon St Exup\u00e9ry (TGV)<br \/>\nLyon St Exup\u00e9ry &gt; Aix en Provence (Ouigo)<\/p>\n<p>Jeudi :<br \/>\nMarseille Saint Charles &gt; Toulouse (Intercit\u00e9)<\/p>\n<p>Dimanche :<br \/>\nToulouse &gt; Marseille Saint Charles &gt; Toulouse (Intercit\u00e9)<\/p>\n<p>Lundi :<br \/>\nAix TGV &gt; Valence TGV (TGV)<br \/>\nValence TGV &gt; Grenoble (TER)<\/p>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s les r\u00e9servations, j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9cid\u00e9 d&rsquo;\u00e9crire \u00e0 Acces Plus car j&rsquo;ai pass\u00e9 un moment hubuesque :<\/p>\n<p><em>Bonjour<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Je suis en fauteuil et je ne parle pas donc je fais toutes mes r\u00e9servations en ligne.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Je souhaiterais vous faire part de comment r\u00e9server accesplus est devenu compliqu\u00e9.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Jusqu\u2019\u00e0 il y a peu, on pouvait r\u00e9server accesplus directement par email, c\u2019\u00e9tait tr\u00e8s facile. Depuis quelques mois, on doit remplir un formulaire en ligne et ne plus envoyer d\u2019email direct. Ce n\u2019\u00e9tait pas tr\u00e8s compliqu\u00e9, on pouvait mettre toutes les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences de dossier dans le m\u00eame formulaire.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Apparemment le formulaire vient de changer. Mon voyage a plusieurs r\u00e9f\u00e9rences (cf ci-dessous). Ce matin j\u2019ai du remplir 3 fois le m\u00eame formulaire pour chaque r\u00e9f\u00e9rence. Puis changer de formulaire car j\u2019ai une r\u00e9f\u00e9rence TER *\u2026 Ca devient quand m\u00eame super compliqu\u00e9.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>J\u2019en profite aussi pour signaler (mais \u00e7a, \u00e7a existe depuis toujours) que si je fais un trajet TGV + TER (typiquement Aix TGV &#8211; Grenoble, avec un changement \u00e0 Valence TGV), sur le site ouisncf, je dois r\u00e9server d\u2019un c\u00f4t\u00e9 Aix TGV-Valence TGV (TGV) et Valence TGV &#8211; Grenoble (TER) d\u2019un autre c\u00f4t\u00e9 d\u2019o\u00f9 la multitude de dossiers.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Ce serait peut-\u00eatre bien de regarder si un all\u00e9gement de la proc\u00e9dure \u00e9tait possible, svp.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Bien cordialement,<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Le formulaire tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant que j&rsquo;ai du remplir 3 fois\u00a0 (pour les 3 r\u00e9f\u00e9rences TGV\/Intercit\u00e9) : <a href=\"https:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Acce\u0300s-Plus-Demande-de-Prestation.pdf\">Acce\u0300s Plus &#8211; Demande de Prestation<\/a><br \/>\nIl s&rsquo;allonge selon ce qu&rsquo;on r\u00e9pond :<\/p>\n<p>Le formulaire TER :<a href=\"https:\/\/formulaire.secure.force.com\/TERformulaire?origin=SITE_TER&amp;region=FR-ARA&amp;type=acces\"> Acces Plus TER<\/a><\/p>\n<p>*Finalement, Ouigo s&rsquo;est d\u00e9brouill\u00e9 tout seul pour r\u00e9server Acces Plus.<\/p>\n<p>Pour le probl\u00e8me du trajet TGV + TER, j&rsquo;avais d\u00e9j\u00e0 interpell\u00e9 la SNCF sur Twitter, \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion d&rsquo;une erreur de ma part lors d&rsquo;une r\u00e9servation :<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1198\" src=\"https:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/sncf2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"587\" height=\"639\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/sncf2.png?v=1723622649 587w, https:\/\/blog-enrouelibre.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/sncf2-276x300.png?v=1723622649 276w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 587px) 100vw, 587px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Et bien s\u00fbr, j&rsquo;avais pu prendre le TER sans probl\u00e8me, comme depuis 10 ans. On peut d&rsquo;ailleurs s&rsquo;interroger sur le fait que \u00e7a ne perturbe pas du tout la personne\u00a0 derri\u00e8re ce tweet(si ce n&rsquo;est pas un robot) de reconna\u00eetre qu&rsquo;en 2018, il y aurait des TER non accessibles\/ \u00ab\u00a0non adapt\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb. Et cette impossibilit\u00e9 de r\u00e9server le trajet TGV + TER en un seul coup est toujours d&rsquo;actualit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Vendredi, j&rsquo;ai diffus\u00e9 mon email sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux, mais je me suis dit que \u00e7a valait le coup de mettre au propre cette histoire, via cet article. Je vais sans doute l&rsquo;envoyer \u00ab\u00a0plus haut\u00a0\u00bb&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Comme toujours, je tiens \u00e0 souligner que lorsque je prends le train, cela se passe g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement tr\u00e8s bien. Je trouve donc que c&rsquo;est extr\u00eamement dommage (et injustifiable \u00e0 mes yeux) que cela devienne de plus en plus lourd, c\u00f4t\u00e9 administratif. Certains militants se demandent si ce n&rsquo;est pas pour nous d\u00e9courager. Mais ne perdons pas espoir, peut-\u00eatre qu&rsquo;un stagiaire s&rsquo;est enflamm\u00e9 et peut-\u00eatre que ce formulaire a juste \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s mal test\u00e9 lors de sa mise en place ;).<\/p>\n<p>Et sinon, depuis octobre, la ligne vers Toulouse est coup\u00e9e plus ou moins jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 nouvel ordre, j&rsquo;ai pu cependant acheter des billets. Acces Plus \u00e0 qui j&rsquo;ai pos\u00e9 la question m&rsquo;a r\u00e9pondu qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y avait pas encore d&rsquo;information concernant la circulation de ces intercit\u00e9s&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Bref! \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<!-- Facebook Like Button v1.9.6 BEGIN [http:\/\/blog.bottomlessinc.com] -->\n<iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fblog-enrouelibre.fr%2F%3Fp%3D1195&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=false&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;colorscheme=light\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowTransparency=\"true\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px; height: 30px; align: left; margin: 2px 0px 2px 0px\"><\/iframe>\n<!-- Facebook Like Button END -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vendredi 1er novembre, j&rsquo;ai voulu r\u00e9server la prestation acces plus pour un voyage fin novembre. 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